READ! ImPORTANT! YOU WON'T REGRET!

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Hello. How do all of you do? I would not apreciate if htis post not be deleted, because it can be very useful all around. First, I would like to say, I hack. I didn't do it because I wasn't good, I just thought it would be better to my advantage. I ten proceeded to try "chamleleon skins" out. They were given to my friend who then passed them to me. Of course, after I tried it, I dared not to attempt anything like that again. The next week, I was in a slump, and decided to try them out once again. Indeed, I was playing excellent, and I was on top of the list. From then on, I had always used them, and never felt bad for something like this. Not only am I wasting my money, but otehr peoples money. (So I thought) I then came to wonder..
"Is it correct to my knowledge, that everything in this world is meant to be?"
There, is where it hit me. I am not ruining anything, for the non hackers. Two reasons: One. Because EVERYONE HACKS! two. if they dont, they should, because its not hard. Do yourslefves a favor, and make it part of the game. It's not like im a bad guy, and I am mean. I am nice, and warm hearted. That's why I am taking this time to talk to you guys.
Next, I would liek to add about hacking in general. It's a chain. The hacks are made, then an anti-cheat program is made to stop this hack. this chain will keep continuing forever, and you must realize that. Soon, with all the anti- cheat programs, you will NOT be able to enjoy yourself in the game. Why do I say this? Because it's true! Think. They have anti-cheat programs designed to kick anyone with obvious non-default skins. That could also mean, "no funny Osama bin Laden skins :(, etc." You guys do the math.
Last, i would like to add my two cents into this Gamespy deal. I payed. I want to play on my servers. You payed. You want to play on your servers. Like it or not, BOTH hackers and Non-hackers are getting THE BAD SIDE. This is no fair. I refuse to participate. SOmething like this is ubserd, and should be 100% illegal. You would probably say, "What about hacking?" You are not forced to torture when it comes to hacking. You can join in when you feel that you are getting the rotten end of the deal. As for Gamespy, EVERYONE SUFFERS NO MATTER WHAT! participating in this isn't helping, because the hackers WILL NOT stop. You people do not understand the meaning of this. SOme people do t for fun, some for fame, and others for stupidity, also not mentioning "Suckiness" (Not a word) This basically sums it all up. "You cannot beat the system, unless you join the system" Join us, til there is no one to hack against, then there will be no more hacking. Trust me. I KNOW. If anyone needs more info, please feel free to private message me. Or you can email me. Have a nice LIVE :twisted:
 

Enforcer

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Sorry i have to go to university only 2 ideas:

1: you are not an hacker at all maybe a script kiddy
2: you can setup ServerWatch to allow every skinpack you like on the Server and disallow the rest
ServerWatch anticheat can be _fully_ self configurated and you can allow all maps skins ... what ever you like every version every ......

But if you dont like just setup it that way.
(because if that nobody can be sure if he plays on a server that he really detects the cheats he think of - therefor it is possible to sign configurations and it is possible to see as a playing user on an AC server if the running config is signed or not)
 

Enforcer

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Im back from the university - so here we go

Anything-I-want-to-be said:
Hello. How do all of you do? I would not apreciate if htis post not be deleted, because it can be very useful all around. First, I would like to say, I hack. I didn't do it because I wasn't good, I just thought it would be better to my advantage. I ten proceeded to try "chamleleon skins" out. They were given to my friend who then passed them to me. Of course, after I tried it, I dared not to attempt anything like that again. The next week, I was in a slump, and decided to try them out once again. Indeed, I was playing excellent, and I was on top of the list.
wow that’s soooooo cool

Anything-I-want-to-be said:
From then on, I had always used them, and never felt bad for something like this. Not only am I wasting my money, but otehr peoples money. (So I thought) I then came to wonder..
"Is it correct to my knowledge, that everything in this world is meant to be?"
There, is where it hit me. I am not ruining anything, for the non hackers. Two reasons: One. Because EVERYONE HACKS! two. if they dont, they should, because its not hard.
Again that’s no hacking at all.

Anything-I-want-to-be said:
Do yourslefves a favor, and make it part of the game. It's not like im a bad guy, and I am mean. I am nice, and warm hearted. That's why I am taking this time to talk to you guys.
It is not part of the game because its hard to define rules if you don’t use the rules of the game publisher and some gys really want a challenge and not the latest skins or cheat there not even have made and just using it

Anything-I-want-to-be said:
Next, I would liek to add about hacking in general. It's a chain. The hacks are made, then an anti-cheat program is made to stop this hack. this chain will keep continuing forever, and you must realize that. Soon, with all the anti- cheat programs, you will NOT be able to enjoy yourself in the game. Why do I say this? Because it's true! Think. They have anti-cheat programs designed to kick anyone with obvious non-default skins. That could also mean, "no funny Osama bin Laden skins :(, etc." You guys do the math.
Please read the material first before writing stuff like that ServerWatch AntiCheat works the other way around !! It only allows you to use the default Install if you like to (depends on the setup) Also you can add some files as allowed you know. BTW I think “Osama bin Laden” are not that funny at all

Anything-I-want-to-be said:
Last, i would like to add my two cents into this Gamespy deal. I payed. I want to play on my servers. You payed. You want to play on your servers. Like it or not, BOTH hackers and Non-hackers are getting THE BAD SIDE. This is no fair. I refuse to participate. SOmething like this is ubserd, and should be 100% illegal. You would probably say, "What about hacking?" You are not forced to torture when it comes to hacking. You can join in when you feel that you are getting the rotten end of the deal. As for Gamespy, EVERYONE SUFFERS NO MATTER WHAT! participating in this isn't helping, because the hackers WILL NOT stop. You people do not understand the meaning of this. SOme people do t for fun, some for fame, and others for stupidity, also not mentioning "Suckiness" (Not a word) This basically sums it all up. "You cannot beat the system, unless you join the system" Join us, til there is no one to
hack against, then there will be no more hacking.
Just can do whatever you like if the other just know about it. If you like to beat the others with your “knollage” about released new cheats do that but not on clan servers that don’t like it. Just found you own “script kiddy” league and have some fun. Nothing to say agains that but some users want to play the game with the rules the game has already and that’s fine for them.


Anything-I-want-to-be said:
Trust me. I KNOW. If anyone needs more info, please feel free to private message me. Or you can email me. Have a nice LIVE :twisted:
You know what ?
Again hacking is not about using something any other has bring you to mind. Hacking is about find some things nobody has used before. Also no hacker would do things you do because you messing up some things with that and that’s really not in the idea of hackers

That are just my 2 cents about that. Maybe you just first should take a look how ServerWatch AntiCheat works before telling stuff that is not true.
 
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Did I ask you?

1. No. I didn't come to tell you about hacking. I came to tell you that it cannot be stopped. Also, i'm assuming your about 15 or 16. Not much older than that, becasue of the type of response you added. The imagination university shouldn't be involved. Also, I did not write this so you can post two times, and add your phony two cents. Lemme ask you, have you been new at the game before? I think we all have. Have you ever came across an admin that doesn't know what hes doing? Yessir. You can think on a more practical side. Not everyone is a special as you (Being that you are in "College", so to speak, and you still play video games). I wouldn't consider that as a "diss", just a warning. Acually, I don't do much hacking, but a person using the hacks is come to be known as "a hacker". There for, I am a hacker, to everybody else. I am very smart with those kinds of things, just never took the time to learn.(I have a life) Anyway, the reason for my posting, is that this Gamespy crud is ridiculous. This shows the true way of dealing with this? To tell you the truth, not as many people hack as you think. I would like to see ANYONE try and challenge me, and I would win, without my hacks. So it doesn't matter either way.....
When I said, that phrase, "You can't beat the system unless you join it" It makes very much sense.If you think about it, a person who uses hacks is acually giving you the key to winning. Think.
 

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“Did I ask you?“
yes you asked me because you posted that in a forum about my software.
Instead of discussing you just affront me.

I dont know what you want to tell me about Gamespy i dont use it, also i have some problems to get your other ideas and what they should bring me to mind. If it is the one thing, that people who are to bad to play without helpers or just don’t see the point that it is no fun to play with cheats never will stop – that’s nothing new

Maybe you crack my software, maybe you don’t - we will see. But im pretty sure there is no hacked version out at the moment.

If don’t start arguing or proof some of your allegations that was my last answer.
 

CobraEF

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Well a day you have the time.
Please download the Anticheat client and you are more than welcome to beat us in our servers. IP 217.8.158.195:12204
Always fun to play against unknown players.
 

LoadedDiaper

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I read and now I regret. Can I have those two minutes of my life back?

Couple points here for Mr. Anything-I-want-to-be, aka Master-of-circular-rationalization.

1. You were not good for that week you were in a "slump".

2. Your statement, "Indeed, I was playing excellent, and I was on top of the list. From then on, I had always used them, and never felt bad for something like this. Not only am I wasting my money, but otehr peoples money. (So I thought) I then came to wonder..." is poorly formed and denotes contradiction (more on grammar later). It seems that you did feel you were wasting your and other's money up until your so-called revelation. But if that is the case why didn't you feel bad?

3. Were everything in this world truly there because it was "meant to be" then one subscribes to the notion of Fate or Destiny which stands in contradiction of Free Will. If you subscribe to this notion than any accomplishment you've achieved is not really your own, you deserve no credit for all the right choices you have made in your life.

4. You are ruining things for the non-hackers. You are cheating them out of the kills that they would have had as they have acquired skill through practice and experience. Not everyone hacks/cheats. There are few things in this world that everyone does. Some believe in fair play and sportsmanship. You apparently do not and rationalize it with the old "everyone else is doing it" line of rhetoric.

5. We know it's a chain. It's written all over these forums.

6. We have three choices when it comes to cheating. a) We cheat, b) We do nothing, c) We fight it. Which is more noble?

7. Yes you paid for your copy of MOHAA and so did we. What you didn't include in your rant was that many of us pay more than you in that we pay for the servers that you call your own. Paying for those servers gives us the right to chose the environment we play in. If you want to use bin-laden skins or cheat then go rent a server of your own or find one that allows you to.

8. I'm not sure what your point is when you assume that Enforcer is 15 or 16 and go on to say "because of the response you added." It seems pretty obvious to me that English isn't his native language. I'll go out on a limb here and assume English is yours though. To which I say: Where do you get off attacking how he's communicating when you write such atrocities as, "Have a nice LIVE", "...it would be better to my advantage." , "Have you ever came across an admin..." and spelled other otehr?

9. Where is your statement that could be construed as a "diss"? And what is your warning? Is it that he's in college and still playing video games? Spoken like a true 13 year-old if that's the case.

10. If you have "a life" why are you pontificating to a group of people who stand firmly against what you preach?

11. Hacking and cheating by definition are outside the system.

In summary, Learn some humility. Take a morality pill. Think before you speak. Try not to think in terms of absolutes. And I hope to God that until you learn to do the above you do not breed.
 

thejerk

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Very well put, Diaper.

Let me add that breeding, as marked by your last comment, is half of our problem in society as long as people like this continue to "preach" their "spoken word."

All I can say to the damned, I mean the speaker of this thread, is that your intention seemed noble on the surface but carries with it a bit of a fighter's tone. You really can't expect that you'll be welcomed warmly as a heretic in a room of catholic monks, so you shouldn't also carry the assumption you so "elequently" posted.

So, in my own way, I wish you to be damned with the other so-called hackers (I agree with MK, what you said does not make you one), and furthermore, I also wish you to be damned with anyone who believes law is a state of mind, to which it is not.
 

Eviscero

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definately a script kiddie. He doesnt hack, he downloads other peoples 'work' if you want to call it that.

From his english, I would say is no older then 17.

Listen kid, i dont use hacks, and i always in the top 4 so you dont need hacks if you spend the time to learn how to play smart and get alittle aim.
 

Navy

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Damm right.

Sorry about my English but i think this kid is nothing without his cheats.
So when he wants to proof he is good he is more than welcome on our server to challenge us the non-hackers.

Lets say, he will give us his nickname and battle us on our server.
We put a date where he can show his stuff hell i even make the server private if he wants it.

Let say 5 cheaters against 5 of us (admins)
 

Enforcer

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We also can do that on our Clan Server with ServerWatch AntiCheat running ;-)

But im also positive that you would have a chance to win also if the others cheat but without cheats - hell i saw some good players that went from REALLY GOOD to _REALLY BAD_ from one day to the other.

The day we tested ServerWatch AntiCheat on a server *G*
 

Cyan

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Ok sorry i know this is an old topic but... i just got around to reading it, lets start by saying i cheat/hack and dont hide it from anyone, i played the game legite with no modifications at all for 2 years, and i was an excellent player, not the best but i was good, then i bored of the game, i then found out that the people who were better than me, were hacking, and therefore i gave them a try, i then found a new challenge in the game while hacking... so on and so on, i dont have to right the reasons why i hack the point is i do, and so do 90% of the mohaa community.


for all those hackers looking for a clan

http://www.opengamersguild.com they hack, openly, and allow hackers and non hackers to play there

Server IP:66.230.158.166

(please dont delete this or ban me from posting b/c this is just a place for hackers to go play, and enjoy the game how they want, and it does not give any site for cheats so i am therefore not trying to desegrate what you guys are trying to accomplish with the anticheats, im just giving mod users a place to go)
 

Mcduke

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I've played UT for several years and came across afew cheaters in that game and found them very pathetic. Hack/ cheat is simply lame. I did a search for anti- cheat program for my mohaa server and actually came across sites that offered cheat mods for cheaters. I was in disbelief. Maybe those that feel the need to cheat in any game should take up solitaire. :nuke: The thread above mine states that theres server that openly invites hackers. I guess this would be okay. I referring to those hackers that go online against players who aren't hacking as cheaters and lamers.
 

emz1969

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cheaters suck

For those of you that endorse good-player-want-to-be's stance about cheating, chances are I have already banned a few of you from my server already.

I find nothing honorable or stand-up about admitting you are an immature dope, that has to mod to have the highest score. Based on the cheater's replies, I agree that he is just downloading mods and cheats as Enforcer suggests. He can barely spell, let alone create mods...

I do find it honorable that people like Enforcer and the other admins (I am one too) constantly try out, and use anti-cheat programs to keep idiots like good-player-want-to-be, from ruining the experience for honest players.
 

wocochoco

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SPEECHLESS

I just read everything that was posted here.

It was the biggest waist of my time ever.

For the people that hack i am sorry but you aren't welcomed in my server.

As the original post stated that he only became good with hacks shows that he really isn't good at all. If you can only be good with hacks you don't know how to play the game.

The point of the game is learn how to get good aim and techniques (sorry about spelling) and use them to your advantage. Hackers are just people who can't do that.

If i was running this site i would of delete these posts (no offense to rudedog)

STAY WITH ANTICHEAT EVERYONE!
 
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