Black Ops Player Numbers Less than 30k

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30,000+ players a day and this game is a fail. Who's delusional? :rolleyes:
What part of "it has lost 120 thousand players since launch in record time" do you not understand? Show me another Call of Duty game that has lost over 2 thirds of its player base in less than 6 months, and you might start to have a point. Even COD2, which was beset with problems since its release date, didn't loose that many players in such a short time.

So, to make the point as plain as I can: it is a "fail" in terms of loosing so many players in such a short time. And it is loosing players so fast precisely because it has problems which could have been avoided had the developers actually cared about the PC build.

This is a PC-centric forum, and most of us don't give a shit about consoles. What we care about is the state of PC gaming and how developers make games for it. Black Ops represents all that is wrong with development for a PC game: coming last in development in terms of care and attention; coming last in release of DLC; coming last in terms of promises made to us but prevaricating about them (i.e. delaying the promised mod tools) . This is what this thread is about - I posted it not because I am happy to see the game fail. That couldn't be further from the truth. What this thread represents for me is that my beloved franchise is being shat on from a great height, and it is breaking my heart. I would rather they stop making the game for PC rather than see the PC community go through a similar history again with the next COD title.
 
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We don't always see eye to eye Tally but I have to agree 100% with this statement, especially the past sentence.
- I posted it not because I am happy to see the game fail. That couldn't be further from the truth. What this thread represents for me is that my beloved franchise is being shat on from a great height, and it is breaking my heart. I would rather they stop making the game for PC rather than see the PC community go through a similar history again with the next COD title.
 

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Yes I have to agree I would much rather they stopped making COD for the PC than have to continue suffering the aweful releases of recent years..
 

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Yes I have to agree I would much rather they stopped making COD for the PC than have to continue suffering the aweful releases of recent years..
That's the thing I don't get Butch,
If the PC customer really represents such a small piece of their business and piracy is ramped (What they say), why do they keep making the game for the PC customer?

I would say they make good money on us because of their half assed effort and the return they receive. I think we're getting shafted more then we know.....
 

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Yes I have to agree I would much rather they stopped making COD for the PC than have to continue suffering the aweful releases of recent years..
If you don't like it, don't buy it. But I don't think it's right to say quit making it on the pc. Obviously there are still people that play it. Just because it's not what everyone wants, doesn't mean that others should loose that right to play it too.
 

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Yes I have to agree I would much rather they stopped making COD for the PC than have to continue suffering the aweful releases of recent years..
As a personal point of view it is fine of course and i would tend to agree to some extend. What we must not forget however is that what makes the bulk of COD players are not us. Not the server admins, modders, mappers, no its Joe Pubber - casual gamers - and these are still playing the game in large number (leaving the "drop" aside for a sec) on the PC.
 

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If you don't like it, don't buy it. But I don't think it's right to say quit making it on the pc. Obviously there are still people that play it. Just because it's not what everyone wants, doesn't mean that others should loose that right to play it too.
I have to agree with steels here Butch. I don't want to see Activision stop making games for the PC just because I don't like the quality of them. We should still see a variety of games for people to choose from even if it doesn't include all the features we want. I don't enjoy CoD any more, haven't done so for a while, but I do know some people still like the style of play.
 

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Probably a big reason as to why they dont just drop the PC console port altogether is how they use it as marketing tool as it allows Activision to prop The Xbox version as a premium.

If they stopped making the PC console port they wouldn't be able to say to the console customers hey if you get this you'll be getting it premium, you'll be getting it first.

We all know Activision is all about the marketing tricks and the way they probably look at the COD PC port as a great way to beef up their main product while adding some marginal but still more revenue to the bottom line.
 

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Probably a big reason as to why they dont just drop the PC console port altogether is how they use it as marketing tool as it allows Activision to prop The Xbox version as a premium.
This would be true i think if PS3/Wii version was dropped, but not PC. This "premium" thing with Microsoft/Xbox360 is based on the Console war, PC doesnt come into it if you ask me.
 

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This would be true i think if PS3/Wii version was dropped, but not PC. This "premium" thing with Microsoft/Xbox360 is based on the Console war, PC doesnt come into it if you ask me.
I agree with zeroy on this one. What pisses me off about this is that MS should be also be doing this for PC as well because we after all using their OS. Well most of us :) So much for friggin games for windows. More like games for throwing out windows. rc_nvg
 

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So much for friggin games for windows. More like games for throwing out windows.
Note that so far, only COD:WAW was a Game For Windows. But yes, Microsoft/ATVI could do a lot more for the PC crowd, especially seeing that it is the biggest player base right now....
 

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Note that so far, only COD:WAW was a Game For Windows. But yes, Microsoft/ATVI could do a lot more for the PC crowd, especially seeing that it is the biggest player base right now....
I remember correctly they were going to give some TLC to PC gamers or is that only when they are pitching Windows 8?
rc_nvg
 

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Win8 will let you connect and play online to the window live gaming network. It also get this will connect you the PC with the XBOX and play together.
That won't happen. Keyboard and mouse players will destroy gamepad players. Plus PC has many cheats.

Portal 2 is doing cross platform yes but it's co-op against the AI.
 

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All I'll say is in the past year and a half we've had a total of 0 conference calls with the GFW team.

That along with their 360 exclusive content, should sum up their PC gaming support.

Remember Microsoft is PC Gaming biggest barrier to success.
 

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That won't happen. Keyboard and mouse players will destroy gamepad players. Plus PC has many cheats.

Portal 2 is doing cross platform yes but it's co-op against the AI.
I agree with Maydax. Console players will throw the dollies out of the pram when they see how inferior their game pads are. On the other newer titles might take out mouse settings for the PC. Oh but wait IW will include them as they PC will be the same as it ever was...
 

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I remember that Games For Windows was a hot item at first but I havent heard crap about it in such along time. Its like it went poof and it was gone.

Wizz
Do you remember when Games for Windows was a hot item on Microsoft's things to do list? Right around the time........ THEY WHERE RELEASING WINDOWS 7. I wager it will again be the "hot item" right around the time they want us to buy Windows 8.

Very sad
 

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Also I didnt know that Portal2 can do cross platform. Maybe they are taking baby steps and as I stated Valve has already connected pc and xbox players together in TF2 in a inhouse engeneering test with the orange box engine.
With Portal 2 the cross platform multiplayer is for co-op so there isn't any human vs human. PC Aimbotter playign against PS3 player won't go over well :p

Also if you buy Portal 2 on PS3 you get a voucher for the PC version too since Valve made steam for the PS3.
 
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Oh but wait IW will include them as they PC will be the same as it ever was...
Don't be so damn sarcastic!

You're forgetting one of the main features of the PC MW2 was they gave us "Mouse & Keyboard Support" ;)
 

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Windows 8 is going to frigging rock. Win8 will let you connect and play online to the window live gaming network. It also get this will connect you the PC with the XBOX and play together.
That all sounds pretty bad to me :eek: :undecided - We were fine without GFW, in fact it just brings hassle in the all setup. Luckily for now it seems that when games are Steamworks, they cant be GFW, a relief to be honest!
 
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