Black Ops Player Numbers Less than 30k

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Black Ops player numbers fell below 30,000 for the first time in its five month history:

Current Players Peak Today Game

58,629 74,827 Counter-Strike
53,238 66,157 Counter-Strike: Source
28,345 35,961 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 - Multiplayer
21,401 29,290 Call of Duty Black Ops - Multiplayer
17,797 26,570 Football Manager 2011
12,716 15,385 Team Fortress 2
10,846 15,333 Total War SHOGUN 2
10,825 15,168 Sid Meier's Civilization V
8,991 11,656 Left 4 Dead 2
5,047 5,795 Call of Duty Black Ops
http://store.steampowered.com/stats/

What is wrong with this picture? Hello, Treyarch! Wake up before your game is dead in less than 8 months!

The ironic thing is, MW2 is still attracting a steady 35,000 on a daily basis even though it has no dedicated servers, no server files, and no mod tools.
 
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Not surprising I would think. I would say that tools would bring some life back into it but only the serious pc player care about mods and we all know that the serious pc players don't add up to be much these days .
 
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Not surprising I would think. I would say that tools would bring some life back into it but only the serious pc player care about mods and we all know that the serious pc players don't add up to be much these days .
It is very surprising for a Call of Duty title to be doing this badly after only 5 months. The fact that the player numbers have fallen off so rapidly highlights how boring the format is now. Add to that all the performance issues with the title, and it becomes understandable, albeit still remaining shocking.
 
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Very interesting Tally.

I've always said MW2 with it's limited MP (in regards to servers, AC and support) seems to have attracted the TF2 crowd. Meaning the people who like to play without any supervision (hacking and cheating) from the dev, admins or community....

Oh well if people keep buying it, they will keep feeding you the same stuff over and over again.

Will be interesting to see what the next CoD title does in sales and online players.
 

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The little time I played black ops I found it was basically a cod4 "mod" with a few things added. The numerous bugs, spawn and performance issues didn't help.

I found it to be boring overall because I have played so much CoD4 that I feel MW2 and Black Ops are the same game with different maps, more perks / killstreaks / ranks added. I disliked many of the maps, the 18 player limit (I prefer 32 as a minimum) and the annoying killstreaks to name a few.

The problem I see with games is they are buggy, unbalanced or unfinished on release and by the time devs fix the issues, a lot of players have moved on. Then they split the community again and again with paid map packs. I seen another post here about charging a small licensing fee when renting servers. That may be a better solution then charging players for new content.

Players want more stats with leaderboards but they fail to see the hardware and IT personal required to operate them. All of which has a monthly cost.
 

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Don't forget we're (the PC customer) not their primary [-]concern[/-] .. I mean customer.

Moving forward, I refuse to support any company that does not consider "ME" important.

If that means I don't give "fill in game/dev/publisher name here" any of my hard earned money, so be it. I'm much happier now that I've finally realized I was the problem and have corrected it.
 

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Bah, who cares? Those who enjoy it ... do, and those who dont.. there are other games. Tools? Great. Resuscitation of the game? No.But again, who cares? COD are every year now, as Battlefield is starting to do also. The 1 year circle is getting the norm guys, either way I still find enough games around to play and have fun (the objective of games, i think), try it, its much better than ranting day in day out about BO ;)
 
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I too, am one of those who has not played the game lately. I love the game and even got the map pack(which is amazing), but just don't find myself drawn to playing the game really. It is not a challenge to play so it has lost it's fun factor. Going 50/10 or more every map can only be fun for so long.
 
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Black Ops player stats for yesterday: 27,000

MW2 player stats for yesterday: 35,000

Black Ops has now lost 123,000 players since it came out in November, when the player stats at that time peaked at 150,000 players (although apparently 1,000,000 PC players bought the game. How come the stats have never shown 1 million people playing it?). Something very wrong here. Very, very wrong. And to think that there are still deluded people out there who have their heads jammed up their arse saying "everything is fine, there are no problems with the game". Hello! Wakey, wakey! You can't loose that many players and not have a problem.
 

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Black Ops player stats for yesterday: 27,000

MW2 player stats for yesterday: 35,000

Black Ops has now lost 123,000 players since it came out in November, when the player stats at that time peaked at 150,000 players (although apparently 1,000,000 PC players bought the game. How come the stats have never shown 1 million people playing it?). Something very wrong here. Very, very wrong. And to think that there are still deluded people out there who have their heads jammed up their arse saying "everything is fine, there are no problems with the game". Hello! Wakey, wakey! You can't loose that many players and not have a problem.
What doesn't help is that a P2P game which is limited to 9v9 is beating a recently released game that has 12v12 and dedicated servers.
 
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What doesn't help is that a P2P game which is limited to 8v8 is beating a recently released game that has 16v16 and dedicated servers.
MW2 / BO has 9v9 ranked and BO has 12v12 unranked :p

If the core game isn't solid and balanced, the game won't do well. No matter if it has dedi servers, mod tools, etc etc. Latest game to prove that is Homefront.

I actually liked MW2 better than CoDBO gameplay and performance wise but P2P doesn't work for me because of my location.
 

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Actually these numbers are a good thing. This is the first time Treyarch has even competed with a IW COD game and even was beating it for such a long time. Look at the numbers from COD4 vs CODWAW. COD4 was ten times more popular than CODWAW. This just shows you that Treyarch are finally building a game that are able to compete with IW. Since IW is gone from Treyarch now, gives the COD fan hope that the series still has the potential to release great games.

CODBO also broke records on how many people bought the DLC. So much for "this game is broken for so many". Fact is, this is still a very strong game and ranked 4th in player total. Do you know how many developers would love to have the numbers CODBO has? Wake up people....

So the COD fan is not troubled by these numbers at all.;)
 

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MW2 / BO has 9v9 ranked and BO has 12v12 unranked :p

If the core game isn't solid and balanced, the game won't do well. No matter if it has dedi servers, mod tools, etc etc. Latest game to prove that is Homefront.

I actually liked MW2 better than CoDBO gameplay and performance wise but P2P doesn't work for me because of my location.
Fixed. I haven't played MW2 so I can't comment on whether it plays better or not than BO.
 

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CODBO also broke records on how many people bought the DLC. So much for "this game is broken for so many"
Call of Duty: Black Ops First Strike DLC set a new Xbox LIVE record with more than 1.4 million downloads in the first 24 hours of release
http://www.thatvideogameblog.com/2011/02/10/activision-sets-new-record-with-black-ops-dlc/

I don't see any information about it breaking any DLC records for the PC platform. Please include a source for such claims in the future.
 
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Actually these numbers are a good thing. This is the first time Treyarch has even competed with a IW COD game and even was beating it for such a long time. Look at the numbers from COD4 vs CODWAW. COD4 was ten times more popular than CODWAW. This just shows you that Treyarch are finally building a game that are able to compete with IW. Since IW is gone from Treyarch now, gives the COD fan hope that the series still has the potential to release great games.

CODBO also broke records on how many people bought the DLC. So much for "this game is broken for so many". Fact is, this is still a very strong game and ranked 4th in player total. Do you know how many developers would love to have the numbers CODBO has? Wake up people....

So the COD fan is not troubled by these numbers at all.;)
Blops has another record to add to its list - the shortest time for the player base to drop 120k.

I predict another will be made before MW3 is out - the shortest time for everyone to desert the game.

What a list of accolades eh?
 

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Fact is, this is still a very strong game and ranked 4th in player total.
Ranked 2nd. I'll spare you the details on CS and CS:S but the reason why they are at top spot is because of hundreds of servers running full of bots, want to see? If you have either CS or CS:S go look at the server Browser and compare with game-monitor.com which shows all the bots-filled servers that Steam counts as players.....Just wanted to set the record straight :D

On the same subject i would put Battlefield Bad Company 2 as 3rd on the FPS race, its not a Steamworks games so not all show on the stats.

For some reason it looks like BlackOps just didnt surpassed MW2, the performance issues and rank reset may explain a good few of those dropping it but i think overall the appeal just isnt the same (im not talking for me, i barely played MW2 MP).
 
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Ranked 2nd. I'll spare you the details on CS and CS:S but the reason why they are at top spot is because of hundreds of servers running full of bots, want to see? If you have either CS or CS:S go look at the server Browser and compare with game-monitor.com which shows all the bots-filled servers that Steam counts as players.....Just wanted to set the record straight :D

On the same subject i would put Battlefield Bad Company 2 as 3rd on the FPS race, its not a Steamworks games so not all show on the stats.

For some reason it looks like BlackOps just didnt surpassed MW2, the performance issues and rank reset may explain a good few of those dropping it but i think overall the appeal just isnt the same (im not talking for me, i barely played MW2 MP).
You have entirely missed the point - in less than FIVE MONTHS the player base has dropped 120k. For whatever reason. That is the point - that it ditched more than 2 thirds of its player base in a record amount of time.

As for the idea that it is not as appealing as MW2, that is total BS. Black Ops is MW2 on dedicated servers, with new skins and new maps. It is a mod of MW2 just like WaW was a mod of COD4. Those that loved MW2 would love Black Ops if only they could play it without stuttering all over the place. The performance issues have prevented those that want to love it from enjoying it, and so they have fled the sinking(=stinking) ship.

I had high hopes for Treyarch. They patched WaW up good and gave great post release support. I thought it was because they cared. However, with this new game, the "real" reason they do such sterling post release support has become clear - because they can't make a game which isn't bugged to death in the time that's been given to them! And so they are using the 6 months post release patching time as an EXTENSION OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT TIME. This is just wrong. Patching is to fix bugs that weren't intended. Not to finish making the game.

Whose fault is it? Activision's or Treyarch's? I don't give a shit. Whoever is responsible for the policy, it is just a criminal to think that you can finish a game after someone's bought it.
 
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Ranked 2nd. I'll spare you the details on CS and CS:S but the reason why they are at top spot is because of hundreds of servers running full of bots, want to see? If you have either CS or CS:S go look at the server Browser and compare with game-monitor.com which shows all the bots-filled servers that Steam counts as players.....Just wanted to set the record straight
It's actually more then you think.

67,003 Counter-Strike
63,162 Counter-Strike: Source
36,052 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 - Multiplayer
31,864 Bad Company 2 (EA Master Server)
29,855 Call of Duty Black Ops - Multiplayer

Stats for Game: Counter-Strike Source
-- Total Servers = 18,924
-- Populated Servers = 5,252
-- Calculated Players Online = 58,544
-- Real Players Online = 47,415
-- Bots Online = 11,129
-- Total Slots = 344,238
-- Populated Percentage = 27.8%
-- Slot Usage Percentage = 13.8%
I used QStat to get a server list from the master server and had qstat query each one. Those stats are still missing a good 3k of servers (I'm still tweaking qstat querying for unresponsive servers).

Either way it still tops BC2 and CoD.
 
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